@kennybill32: What is the vibe or talk amongst the players? Big Ten title, Final Four?
The buzz words that I heard quite a bit of last week were that this is a hungry team that wants to get back to the NCAA tournament and make a run.
This is a really unique group because the ‘core four’ (as Beilein likes to refer to the upperclassmen) on the team have really seen it all in terms of success with a Final Four, Elite Eight and Big Ten Championship early on in their careers. Then you have the underclassmen who just have a .500 season under their belts. I think that this group is definitely driven by last season and everything that went wrong and really wants to prove that it was an anomaly.
@JJ_Hanke: Will there be any additions to the 2016 class or will it stay at four?
Brendan Bailey is technically a class of 2016 target, but he’s more like a class of 2018 recruit due to his plans to take a Mormon mission. He had a very good visit to Michigan a couple weeks ago and is set to visit Gonzaga this weekend before closing in on a fall decision.
Other than the potential of signing Bailey, I’d be shocked if Michigan were to add to its class of 2016 haul before the November early signing period. The four man class of Xavier Simpson, Ibi Watson, Jon Teske and Austin Davis fills most of the immediate needs on the roster as things stand today, but it’s impossible to project potential attrition when the leaves turn green in the spring.
Michigan has generally done a good job of keeping its ear to the ground in search of potential late bloomers — Caris LeVert, Spike Albrecht, Aubrey Dawkins, Muhammad-Ali Abdur-Rahkman, etc. — and I would always leave the possibility that things could develop then. One prospect who was thought of as a potential late bloomer is Beachwood, OH wing Maishe Dailey. Dailey took an unofficial visit to Michigan this fall, but is now planning to prep a year after his senior season and join the class of 2017.
@apic91: People keep praising Aubrey Dawkins as the most improved player. What is his ceiling for this year. 15 a game and good d?
15 points per game is a steep ceiling for a guy who is probably going to be Michigan’s third or fourth option offensively. However, I’m convinced the scoring will come — Dawkins scored 16 or more points in five Big Ten games — and it isn’t where I’m most concerned with his development. If Caris LeVert, Derrick Walton and Zak Irvin play like we expect them to, Dawkins will earn his fair share of open shooting opportunities and will have his fair share of big games. You could put a freshman year Aubrey Dawkins on the floor with those guys and he would have his fair share of scoring outbursts.
But what he didn’t do at a high level last year was defend and rebound on the wing. Dawkins wasn’t a terrible defender last season, but he wasn’t great either. His defensive rebounding rate of 8.5% was worse than Spike Albrecht’s and that’s just not good enough from a 6-foot-6 wing with the highest vertical on the team. With serious competition on the wings, his ability to improve on that side of the court could be what separates him from other wings on the roster vying for playing time.
<ahref=”http://forum.umhoops.com/profile/4384/WindsorBlue”>WindsorBlue: How do you think the five spot will unfold early this season? Related: do you think Moritz Wagner will be a serious contender for playing time or is he likely headed for a redshirt?
I would say that Ricky Doyle is the day one starter and Mark Donnal and DJ Wilson will both get a crack at the rotation early on. If one of those two can significantly outplay the other than we could see more of a two man rotation. Until someone separates from the pack — I’m on record as liking Wilson’s ceiling, but there’s also a sort of now-or-never ultimatum of giving Donnal a chance early — then everyone should get an opportunity.
As far as Mortiz Wagner goes, it’s still a bit too early to judge. I’ve watched him for an hour of light drills in his first Division I practice in the United States. All freshmen face a learning curve, especially making the move from Germany, and usually reach some sort of exponential growth at some point when everything clicks. I’m not sure when that moment will be for Wagner, but judging by Beilein’s excitement about his game I think it is a moment we should be looking forward to. He’s still very skinny so I’m not sure how feasibly he can play into the rotation at the five, but a few years ago we also saw Evan Smotrycz play the five position as a freshman.
<ahref=”http://forum.umhoops.com/profile/219/geoffclarke”>geoffclarke: Will this team feature an elite (top 3 or 4 in country) offense like they had before last year? How will defensive efficiency look?
Fun question as the drop-off from the best offense in the country in back-to-back years to last year’s struggle was definitely harsh.
I’m not sure if I would project Michigan’s offense in the top five — there are still too many questions about how and if everything can work together — but I can definitely predict that this team can really shoot the ball. Looking down the roster you can easily tab six players that have or easily could shoot 40% or better from three-point range this year in: Caris LeVert, Derrick Walton, Spike Albrecht, Zak Irvin, Aubrey Dawkins and Duncan Robinson.
Will that translate into great offense? History tells us that if you give John Beilein that many shooters then you’ll end up with a great offense, but I’m still in wait and see mode.
LeVert looked healthy to me in practice on Friday, but there’s probably still some time to go before he’s in full game shape.
The remarkable thing is that since his original surgery he’s been sidelined for roughly six of the last 18 months. He never really found his groove in the 18 games that he played last season, even when healthy, so there’s definitely going to be some rust that has to come off around the edges.
The situation around him is definitely improved from a season ago as his teammates are far more ready to fill their roles than they were last November, but it will be very interesting to see how LeVert plays early on this season.
JBlair52: How do they rank in a 3 point contest?
I’m going to put a disclaimer on this, I’m projecting rankings for a three-point contest and not necessarily the final three-point percentages at the end of the year. How about something like this:
- Duncan Robinson
- Aubrey Dawkins
- Caris LeVert
- Zak Irvin
- Spike Albrecht
- Derrick Walton
- Mark Donnal
- Muhammad-Ali Abdur-Rahkman
- Moritz Wagner
- Kameron Chatman
- DJ Wilson
- Ricky Doyle
Wayman Britt: We all know Duncan can shoot, but from what you saw and heard will he be able to get his shot off? Especially in the Big Ten, where there are no secrets and we all know certain coaches will face guard him and never leave him open on the perimeter.
He’s not the quickest player on the roster, but he’s 6-foot-8 which should really help him get his shot off. From watching his old film at Williams, he’s also very good at moving without the ball and getting open to create space. Those attributes should translate well, even at this level, especially in a similar offense to what he ran at Williams.
If he shoots the ball well enough to be face guarded on the perimeter for entire possessions offensively, that’s probably a win for Michigan. Robinson isn’t going to be Michigan’s only weapon or primary offensive option, but his threat of a three-point shot should do wonders for spacing the floor and creating space for players like Caris LeVert, Zak Irvin and Derrick Walton.