The Moving Screen: Will these two ever lose a Big Ten game?

The Moving Screen is a podcast collaboration with The Athletic’s Brendan Quinn. We’ll be tackling Michigan, Michigan State and Big Ten basketball at large with a blend of rational analysis and hot takes.

Another podcast and three more wins for Michigan and Michigan State. When will these two teams ever lose in the Big Ten? All signs point toward this being a Michigan vs. Michigan State battle for the league championship.

Listen to “Ep 11: Will these two ever lose a Big Ten game?” on Spreaker.

03:00: When will Michigan lose? Is Zavier Simpson Michigan’s MVP? What is the recipe for a team to beat Michigan?
32:00: Michigan State is dominating the Big Ten (without Josh Langford). The Spartans have been better than Michigan in league play but have a key test coming up at Nebraska.
57:00: Big Ten Power Rankings. There are two great teams and four bad teams but figuring out the other eight spots is a chore.


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  1. Champions

    I think most would agree that UM and MSU are the class of the Big Ten no matter how you want to look at it. But, power ranking the other teams is difficult due to scheduling. UM’s six wins have come against teams with a combined won-loss record of 7-21 in league play. Take away those teams losses to UM/MSU and they would be 7-12. MSU is undefeated against teams that are 10-23, take away loses to the top two and it is 10-14. Eight of UM/MSU 12 games were against the bottom 5 teams (which may be one of the reasons those teams are at the bottom). Meanwhile, Purdue is 3-2 with their only loses coming against UM/MSU. Maryland, on the other hand, is 6-1 with 4 home games and no games against the two best teams in the league. I think it is going to take a couple more weeks to find out just who the best of the rest really is.

  2. umhoops

    Maryland won at Minnesota and lost by a possession at Purdue. That is a strong data point. I agree that a couple other teams might catch them…

    Nebraska looks like a team that’ll make a run coming up here.

  3. rlcBlue

    So when doing the power rankings it makes sense to follow Dylan’s advice: pay attention to road wins and home losses. At this point the non-punching-bag teams have 6 home losses - who won those games?

    Wisconsin won at Iowa
    Minnesota won at Wisconsin
    Maryland won at Minnesota
    Michigan State won at Ohio State
    Purdue won at Wisconsin
    Nebraska won at Indiana

    So if we rank the middle of the conference accordingly, we get four buckets:
    1-0 Maryland, Purdue, Nebraska
    1-1 Minnesota
    1-2 Wisconsin
    0-1 Iowa, Indiana, Ohio State

    Is 1-2 better than 0-1 in this context? Maybe not. And ranking within the buckets is not obvious. Maybe it’s time to invest in a dartboard…

  4. umhoops

    Yeah, well I will admit that I didn’t think Michigan would be this good before the year. Just explaining my logic behind the preseason pick.

  5. adamsmit86

    Probably the same reason that he is in love with Minnesota and had them at #4 in his power rankings :joy:

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