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Podcast: Michigan hires Juwan Howard

The Moving Screen is a podcast collaboration with The Athletic’s Brendan Quinn. We’ll be tackling Michigan, Michigan State and Big Ten basketball at large with a blend of rational analysis and hot takes.

Juwan Howard is Michigan’s new head coach. We try to make sense of the hire and what it means the product on the floor, recruiting, the program, assistant coaches, the Fab Five, and everything else.

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  1. wolverheel

    Radio Gaga

  2. Mattski

    I fear it’s already unstable. :upside_down_face: But I agree that barring other early surprises making the tournament is a not unreasonable expectation.

  3. DetUMICH

    Good stuff @umhoops! Btw, the “buyout” number you quoted (i think Pikiell) from USA Today refers to what the team would owe the coach if they fired him. not what it takes to hire them away. Just FYI as i saw some crazy numbers there but then realized it was the amount owed to coach not school.

  4. BP3

    If any of the core guys get injured though then things get shaky.

  5. JVS

    A few narratives that I think have evolved through the decades due to no one having a good reason to correct or add nuance:

    “The Fab Five were dirty” (and by extension Juwan’s hiring can be seen as dirty, and JB is clean) - Look at who actually took money, and who actually took the obstruction of justice charge. By literally every account and report, Juwan is as clean and professional as JB full stop. He is lumped into something because the Fab Five have come to represent corruption in a 1990s sense, but I don’t think its fair to make that his badge to wear. This is a comment about Chris (maybe 5% Jalen and 95% Chris)

    “The Fab Five are out in front of the media making this about them” - For Jalen, yes, 1000%. For Chris, not really at all. For Jimmy, you may see him at events or on radio/tv b/c he was part of that team, but neither him, nor Ray, nor especially Juwan bring this up without being asked. This is a comment about Jalen, not the Fab Five. (Keep gettin them checks Jalen)

    As someone who grew up with the 89/92/93 teams, and who kept the fire burning in at every game in early 2000s with the team get absolutely smashed by Illinois, MSU, UCLA, Duke, etc, I think one point that should be fleshed out is that the University heavily (over) indexed on their shame rather and what a dark day this was in order to maintain their integrity/brand. While that isn’t really something that can be debated as right or wrong, a lot of the retrospective on that team and the overall black cloud was driven by the University’s very public presentation, and willingness to let the process stay in the news cycle for 4-5 years before it was put into the past. A lot of the press in the last 24h, including the podcast correctly pointed out that the offenses that we are talking about look trivial in retrospect, especially if Ed Martin was just an average booster, or if Chris had owned up to his role.

    While the reality is that the university putting Juwan highlights in the intro video IS an extreme juxtaposition given their prior stances, all that really compares is one lazy narrative (university’s take on the past) against another (that Juwan was corrupt by association) because based on the actual facts of what happened and who did what Juwan Howard the person doesn’t deserve to be included in any of these broader classifications which are driven by the behavior of individuals, and the University’s post-mortem response.

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